Wednesday, May 10, 2006

against suffrage

Lysander Spooner"Women are human beings, and consequently have all the natural rights that any human beings can have.

They have just as good a right to make laws as men have, and no better; AND THAT IS JUST NO RIGHT AT ALL."

-- Lysander Spooner,
"Against Woman Suffrage,"
New Age, February 24, 1877,
featured today at LRC

I was on the phone the other day with a friend I haven't talked to recently enough. He was making worried speech sounds about immigrants and the economy. I was asking him (as is my wont) to separate out the various issues: labor, wages, welfare, crime, voting, etc.

He pretty quickly got the impression -- mostly correct -- that I'm relatively pro-immigrant.

Then he asked me if I thought immigrants should have voting rights.

"Oh, no, absolutely not!" I said.

He seemed very confused. "Why not?"

"Because I don't think anyone should have voting rights."

Now, he knows I'm an anarchist, but he still seemed a little disoriented and he asked me to explain.

I told him he already knew my principles enough to figure it out, but he asked again, and I relented: "Because the supposed 'right' to vote in a political election is the supposed 'right' to have a say in the disposal of the property of others."

When I stated it that way, he not only understood my point, but it sounded like he might have agreed.

I am regularly reminded how hard it is for people to let go of habits of thought.
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1 Comments:

Anthony Gregory said...

The way I tentatively see it: No one has voting rights, in the positivist sense. But voter fraud is not, in itself, a crime either. What's criminal is how the state behaves, regardless of which box people put an x in.

So if an illegal alien or a minor wants to step into a ballot box and mark an x on some piece of paper?all on public, and therefore stolen, and therefore unowned property?I don't see the methodoligical individualist case for forcibly stopping it. But of course I am against giving women or illegals or anyone the "right to vote." In a free society, the matters to be voted on, at least in the political, statist sense, would be reduced to zero.

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